“The more you run, the weirder you can often be.” – Jake Smith I don’t know if there’s an actual science behind this correlation, but I’ll go out on a limb and say, this is 10000% true and no one should ever question it.

On this installment of A Conversational Pace, Leggggs sat down with Jake Smith (⁠@jake_the_runner_art on IG⁠) to chat through his life around running, of course, but also how creativity manifests itself through movement, as well as how to be present in whatever moment you’re finding yourself. If you haven’t started following Jake on IG, you’re missing out.

From conceptualization and execution of footwear design, to insanely impressive illustrations of your favorite runners, Jake is a creative force that the running world is lucky to have.

And we are lucky he sat down with Leggggs at all. So, here you go.